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Monday, September 29, 2008
My automatic watch looses time on my watch winder the watchwinder must be broken!

Well this is maybe a logical deduction if you don't understand automatic watches.
Quartz (battery powered) watches are amazingly accurate, mechanical watches especial automatic watches are not as accuarate.

Don't beleive me? Then check out this site.

http://www.fhs.ch/en/faq.php


This is from the Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry.

Basically a Quartz watch looses less than a second a day while an automatic, a good one, will vary 10 seconds a day, so do the math and this means if you place your watch on the watch winder and walk away for a month the watch is likely to loose anywhere from 1-2 minutes a week or up to 10 minutes or so in a 30 day period...this is normal and nothing is wrong with your watch winder, but the better the watch winder the less time accuracy you will loose (or gain).

Often people discover their automatic watch is in need of service after placing it on the watch winder. Does this mean the winder broke the watch? No, not at all, automatic watches should be serviced every 3 years according to the Swiss Watch Federation, and I think they over estimate the service length, but few people actually service their watches like they should!

Basically you can see that with this inherent weakness in accuracy of an automatic watch, that you should purchase a fully programmable watch winder. This allows you to adjust the winding time as needed by your watch. It is mechanical and a slight variation in the internal parts of the watch means 2 of the same watches can acutally require different winding, even if they have the exact same name and model and movement stamped on the watch!

Automatic watches are as individual as you are, doesn't your watch deserve the very best watch winder you can afford to buy?

Donald

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Friday, September 19, 2008
Question:
Do I need the Grande Biella WatchCase by Venlo for my 51mm Panerai and 50mm Bretiling Watch?

My husband has a Panerai automatic watch and a Breitling and I need to know which watchcase will work for my watches. I’ve got it narrowed down to the Venlo Biella Grande 2 Watchcase or Biella Standard Watchcase not sure which to get, there is a big price jump for the Grande version. The regular sized Venlo Biella watch case says that it only fits watches up to 50 mm in diameter. I’ve measured my watch and I think that it measures 51 mm. My panerai watch also has a non deployant latch which prevents it from laying flat. I know that the comes in Grande (Larger Size) but I’m wondering if you think this type watch will fit in the Standard size?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks,
Mary Beth Rogers


Answer:

No, Mary Beth, you can not get the standard size for those watches. If the watch measures less than 48mm and has a standard style watch band and clasp, then the standard is the best and cheapest choice. But not for those Monsters!

You are definitely on the right path, let me push you over the edge to purchase a grande case, you will not regret the choice! Panerai watches are both Big and Beautiful and a pain to find a watchcase for.

My suggestion would be to go with the Venlo Biella grande size. According to Thomas O'Brien of Venlo, it should offer just enough room for your beautiful automatic Panerai watch and buckle strap.

Yes their is a big price jump, but their is a big materials cost. These are Italian Leather WatchCases, not cheap chinese made leather. The craftsmanship of these cases is superb! You can see, smell and almost taste the difference. This is a gift a high end gift item, a luxury item not a cheap after thought!


We understand your concern about your watch not laying completely flat, but, even though your Panarai watch does not lay completely flat there will be adequate room because of the depth of the Venlo Biella Grande case. The Biella measures about 23 mm in depth. This should give plenty of room for the non deployant latch and the watch face to rest comfortably. Click the link below for the exact descritption and measurements of the Venlo Biella Grande and Standard version.

http://www.watchcases.com/ve-10311-w-c2.html
Biella Standard.

http://www.watchcases.com/biella-grande-travel-watch-case-venlo-sku--lwo-02.html
Biella Big Grande WatchCase

http://www.watchcases.com/venlo-case-milano-grande.html
Milano Big Case.

http://www.watchcases.com/ve-10111-w-c1.html
The single Version of Venlo's Travel Case.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008
Why are Obita Watch Winders on sale if they are so good?

Well Orbita makes the best watch winder bar none. However they allow merchants to put them on sale and some merchants are idiots and sell them at little or no profit.
So you the customer win right?

Wrong!

First you think an Orbita is about the same as a Rapport or Wolf Winder because the price is similar, this is a huge mistake! They are not.
Most merchants selling Orbita Watch Winders drop ship them and do not carry inventory. Which means you will be getting the service level of an infrequent customer. Do you want that?

I do not think so. WatchCases.com stocks and drop ships, but we get the kings treatment if we call for a dropshipment, but the real difference is when something goes wrong.

If something goes wrong with a watch winder and you call us as the seller, and we call Orbita Watch Winders, well now you have the clout of the major watch winder dealer in North America! We sell more Orbita Watch Winders than anyone in the world!

Sure you might pay more for a winder from us, not much, jus a bit more, but you also get more!

You get what you pay for! Plain and simple!
Donald

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Monday, September 15, 2008
Why does my Automatic Watch run slow?
Let me say first, because automatics are finicky!

Probably because you look at it too much! And also.....

Why does an Automatic Watch run slow?

Well either it is broken and in need of adjustment or it is being under wound. Most experts recommend getting your Automatic Watch serviced by a qualified watch repair person at least once a year. No one does this though and so, they ask why their watch runs slow....but it also could be running slow because it is not being wound enough.

Why does my watch run slow no matter how much I wind it?
Hmmm, maybe your watch is just one of those movements that does not keep accurate time! Many automatic movements on the market today are not as good as a simple cheap digital watch or clock. Some movements however are incredibly accurate, but your mileage may vary, it does not take much to throw off the time keeping performance of an automatic watch.

Well, like I said, maybe it is broken, or maybe you were not active enough today while you were wearing it.

The other day Ann was in the office and exclaimed..."Hey, my watch is 10 minutes slow! That's the first time it has done that all week! Why is that?"

Well the answer was simple that day her computer terminal was busy, Ann spent most of her day typing and typing does not move ones wrist very much and wrist movement is what it takes to wind and automatic watch. I think it was a Wednesday and Wednesday is hump day and no one seems to purchase any watch boxes or watch winders online, so we had no orders to fill and Ann was not up checking winders and wrapping tape on boxes and pouring out peanuts and otherwise flipping her wrists around. Instead she was answering emails and typing other information.

I told her "because today you were a lazy slug", after she hit me, she said "what do you mean I was working all day", and I said "no, you were sitting all day and not moving your arm." She said "oh, sorry about your eye, now I understand"....OK so she did not hit me, but there in lies the rub with Automatic Watches they require movement. They are really not Self Winding Watches at all they are wrist movement wound watches.

Now if you put your watch in a watch winder, and it looses a little time then it is an oddity of your watch, but that can be fixed if you buy a quality fully programmable watch winder. You could alter the performance of the watch by maybe turning the watch winder up a notch, but watches are finicky and sometimes they just run slow or fast and nothing can be done about it....Usually when we wear our Automatics when the time is off slightly we make a quick unconscious manual adjustment.

A note about programmable watch winders. They are programmable by turns per day, by running time, by turning direction, some or all of these features is considered or could be called programmable. Even an on off switch could be called programmable if you stretch the definition! Cheap watch winders are minimally programmable. But as long as you can program the direction and get at least 500 Turns Per Day most Automatics will keep running, in fact 99% of watches require 950 TPD or less (Turns Per Day)....

Why are all programmable watch winders not made equally?
Because making a fully programmable watch winder costs money!

So the more you spend the better result you will get from your watch. Though no watch winder will keep a watch at the perfect time. This is why if you follow the watch winder industry you will notice the inclusion and then exclusion of digital battery powered clocks on or in the winders! Who wants a constant reminder from your wife that your $14,000 watch is not keeping time as well as her $100 quartz battery powered watch or even as good as the $10 digital on the watch winder. So companies stopped including the digital time on the front cover of the watch!

Donald

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by: WatchCases 0 Comments
Sunday, September 14, 2008
How do I convince my man to get a watch case?

You don't.
You buy him one and you tell him it is non-returnable.

"Hi honey, I am so excited about the gift I got you"....As he opens the box
you have carefully and lovingly wrapped...."I sure hope you like it, because I can not return it".

Problem solved. He owns a watch case and eventually he will use it!
A watch case makes an awesome gift. We hear all the time from a man who says
he thought it was the dumbest thing to pay a couple hundred dollars for a watch box but now that he has one he does not know how he lived with out it!

I find many women to be too nice and too accommodating to their highly successful man. The woman searches for the perfect gift, for days or months and then tells him it is "OK to return it"!

Now, get real!
It is not!
But if a man hears that, he hears that it is "OK", not like your girl friend, if you say the same words to a woman, she hears the truth: "Look I put a lot of energy into this and if you return it I will be crushed!"

Remember, men do not think like women. Most men, and most women think pretty similar, just because of our culture. Few women collect watches and few men have enough sense to put their expensive collection in a proper watch storage or display case...I have long ago given up trying to figure out why!

Just trust me. You do him a favor by shopping early and thereby forcing him to keep the gift. If you follow our advice you will not be wrong about the item you choose. Buying the best from the best stores is never a mistake. A watch watch winder makes an awesome gift.

We are the best in the business of helping people with their watch collections!

It is so cool to have all his watches in one place easy to admire and acquire!
Same statement holds for a large 3 or more Watch Winder.
A watch winder or watch display case makes an awesome gift.

Donald

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Saturday, September 13, 2008
Which Watch Winder for the Breitling WindRider Series - Breitling CrossWind Winds how needs what watch winder?

Breitling Crosswind Racing is a similar watch in terms of winder needs as are these:
Breitling Evolution
Breitling Navitimer 1461 Ltd. Ed
Breitling Navitimer Breitling Fighters
Breitling Old Navitimer I and II
Breitling Super Avenger

Breitling Montbrillant Datora Caliber B21. But needs CW 800.

The Crosswind is a big watch. With a Diameter of 42.7mm, plus dials.
Weighing in at a Weight of 107.7g. Not too heavy.
Last made in 2004 it is a collectors dream watch!
With a Power Reserve of 42 Hours one might not need a watch winder with this watch if it is your only watch. But then again a weekend lasts most of us at least 48 hours, so the watch will stop before the fun stops!

Watchwinder Direction? CW. Meaning it winds in a clockwise direction. With a 48 hour power reserve that is a lot of winding! This watch requires a minimum of 800 Turns Per Day. Most Watch Winders will fall short of being able to wind this Fabulous Breitling Watch! (I have seen online some people write that this watch winds bidirectionally (both), which is not true if you have a real one with the B13 movement inside. But be advised, figuring out what a fine watch needs from a winder is trial and error, and is never exact. These watches are made to be worn by you!)

Caliber/Calibre: More simply the Movement- Breitling 13: ETA Valjoux 7750.

So the following Watch Winders will be good choices.

Orbita Voyager Travel Watch Winder
http://www.watchcases.com/travelwinder.html

Orbita Siena 3 Watch Winders
http://www.watchcases.com/si3wiinblla1.html


Orbita Siena 1 Watch Winders http://www.watchcases.com/orbita-watch-winder-siena-1.html

Orbita Avanti Watch Winders
http://www.watchcases.com/watch-winder-avanti-1.html

Orbita Monaco Watch Winders
http://www.watchcases.com/4wawi.html

Orbita Bergamo Watch Winders
http://www.watchcases.com/winders-9-watch-orbita.html



Buben and Zorweg President
http://www.watchcases.com/6wawi14wacam.html

Buben and Zorweg Executive
http://www.watchcases.com/4wawi6wacamo.html


Wolf Designs Watch Winders will not wind this Breitling watch,
http://www.watchcases.com/shop-for-winders-shop-by-brand-wolf-winders.html
and neither will most watch winders of Rapport or Steinhausen Watch Winders. Eilux Watch Winders might be able to handle this baby,
http://www.watchcases.com/eiluxwinders2.html
but I am not so sure with the size and weight and power reserve. Please if you own this watch and you buy an Eilux Watch Winder
http://www.watchcases.com/eiluxwinders2.html
let me know! Like wise the Orbita Sparta Series of Watch Winders
http://www.watchcases.com/sparta.html
might have trouble winding this monster....again, if you can try it and let me know I thank you. I doubt that the Orbita Belino can wind this watch,
http://www.watchcases.com/beblle.html
for one it may not even fit inside the Belino's cover.

Donald
WatchCases.com your choice for watch winders for Breitling Watches. (Some of the finest watches on the planet!) Breitlings and you, deserve the best, the watches should be wound in the best watch winders in the World! Buy winders from the Best Watch Winder Store in the World! www.watchcases.com

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Friday, September 12, 2008
Inexpensive Cheap Watch Winder for winding most Automatic Watches.
Click here to purchase a blemished unit and save big! Amazing Sale Price means
the items are sold no Refunds. We will exchange it if you do not like it, but you must pay the shipping and handling fees. We guarantee the unit works and it is under warranty for a full year from purchase date.

inexpensive but not cheap watch winder

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Thursday, September 11, 2008
Why does my Automatic Watch run fast?

Let me say first I am not a watch repairman, so I could be wrong.
I do not know the technical reason for this occurrence and I have observed the same
phenomenon....I own an Invicta, a watch I really enjoy, but it took to running fast. I was confused until a friend pointed out that the band was one link to large and I had developed a nervous habit of flipping my wrist and hence the watch back and forth...so in effect I was over winding my watch...

I removed the link and broke the habit and now my watch runs more closely on time.

Though, as we all know automatics are always gaining a few minutes here and there and we are always absent mindedly resetting the thing! ha ha....but on the winder if it is wound a tad bit too much it will gain time, and if running a tad bit slow I suppose it will loose time, though, typically from my observations, if too slow, it simply stops instead of loosing time....this rule is not in stone, but is based on my observations. However keep in mind Automatic Watches are inherently inaccurate!


So when people ask which winder, the question is really how important and how close to the exact time do you wish your watch to stay? So the more money you have to spend on a quality fully programmable watch winder the better your odds of keeping the time close! http://www.watchcases.com/watch-winder-avanti-1.html

Donald

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by: WatchCases 0 Comments
Monday, September 8, 2008
Which Watch Winder is best for my Rolex SeaMaster?

Well, I do not know exactly, probably 650 Turns Per Day, but maybe more. You will have to do some trial and error. We do not have data on that watch, but it is a $6,000 plus watch so you do want to take care of it and not over stress it, or over wind it. Technically your not "supposed" to be able to "over wind" a modern automatic watch. The Rolex SeaMaster I believe has the same internal movement as the Rolex SubMariner... http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/357389...

(We do not guarantee the validity of the information found on the answer bag web page, and it could have been altered from when we read it, however at the time it was valid. It just makes our argument in different words. Basically the questioner asks about his SubMariner gaining time in the watch winder and lists watches that do not gain time in the same winder, the watches he lists tend to have high Turns Per Day needs and therefore the conclusion one can probably infer is the Submariner or SeaMaster requires a minimum number of Turns Per Day to wind optimally. All automatics are prone to inaccurate time keeping and need frequent service. So it is usually on a watch winder that this shows up since a watch winder is a stable environment it is a control in an experiment so to speak...Finding the optimal setting for every automatic watch is really trial and error, though we usually can get our customers started on the right track when they purchase from watchcases.com.)

Let me broaden this question to which watch winder is best for my Rolex Watch?
The other day I got this question from a caller and it turns out his Rolex was a fake and he purchased it knowing it was a fake and my answer to him was "it does not
matter which Watch Winder you buy, you do not have a Rolex watch!" He bought the most inexpensive watch winder I sell, and for him this made sense.

For you it does not make sense in fact buying anything less than the Orbita Siena Watch Winder is a serious mistake for an expensive Rolex watch. The Orbita Avanti Watch Winder might be the better choice even for your Rolex SeaMaster or SubMariner Automatic Watch.

The name on the face does not a Rolex make! It is the insides that count! The movement makes a watch a Rolex, not the 5 letters combined to spell the word. So please do not call me and tell my you have a Rolex Watch if you have a fake or even suspect it is a fake automatic watch, just tell me it is an inexpensive automatic watch and you need an inexpensive watch winder. Rolex is a brand, but it is a brand that still means something!


Rolex uses a variety of watch movements to power their watches and the majority of Rolex Watches require 650 Turns Per Day wound bi-directionally. Meaning
the vast majority of Watch Winders out there will "over-work" your Rolex Watch!

Notice I say "over-work", not "over wind". In reality I should not bother, since for the layman, the result is the same. A broken watch. If you over work the watch, that is wind it day in and day out more than you should you are overworking it, and as we know from sports this is bad. This is why Athletes are called old in most sports that require repetitive movements under stress are an issue. Like tennis.

So what is the difference between "over-working" and "over winding"? Well, technically you can not over wind a modern mechanical automatic or self winding watch.

They are built with a slip mechanism to prevent "over winding" it says so in your owners manual.
What you did not get an owners manual?

Hmmm,....Are you sure it is real?
What did you pay for it?

$100? Fake.
$500? Fake.
$1,000? Fake.
$3,000? Probably real.
$6,000 Real.
$10,000 + Real.

If you bought a real automatic watch you need to face the reality of purchasing a real automatic watch. Their are a ton of wannabees out there! Are you a real Doctor or do you just play one on TV? ;-) OK kidding aside, let me explain....

Most Watch Winders simply over work your watch and do not technically "over wind" the watch. Over winding is when you wind the watch to the point that the main spring snaps! This slip mechanism prevents this from happening, however this slip mechanism should not be put under constant stress 24x7 which is what happens when the watch is placed in an inferior cheap watch winder. Now if you bought a fake watch or cheap
television sale watch

So, to prevent your valuable Rolex watch from wearing out too soon like say Venus Williams or Roger Federer, or even Tiger Woods, maybe you should cut it some slack and buy a watch winder with a programmable setting which allows you to minimize the winding it endures. Don't put it into a watch winder tournament to see how much stress it can stand! Repetitive same motion movements are the culprit for wearing out knees, shoulders, elbows and Automatic Watch Movements! Less stress is best.

Pretty much the only truly programmable watch winder at an "affordable" price is the Orbita Watch Winder. Most watch winders on the market are programmable for directional turns. But most cheap watch winders do not allow flexible turns per day programming. The important thing is to minimize wear and tear on the watch, less is more! Less wear and tear more care of your watch.

But the thing is most watches do not list in the owners manual the proper or minimal turns per day needed for it to keep running but not be over used. Why?

Well in the words of 99% of Watch Manufacturers when called...

(Imagine them saying this in a snooty and judgemental voice)...

"Humpf, why sir, our watches are not made to be placed in watch winders our watches are made to be worn on your wrist!"

Instead of the better answer of "I am sorry sir, I do not know call WatchCases.com".

Well we do not know the answer for every watch, though after customers buy from us we leave no rock unturned in helping them figure it out. But it does get old answering questions and giving good advice only to have people buy from someone else. Doctors do not mind second opinions, but they do mind price shoppers, because the information and knowledge they possess is valuable and worth every penny! We think our time is valuable too, so I am attempting to answer this all to oft asked question in writing and if you read this argument and it makes sense, please reward us with your purchase.
Thanks.

Summary:

Rolex Movements: You should not over wind your watch if at all possible you should not exceed these recommended turns per day. Increase the Turns Per Day only if the watch does not stay wound at the lower setting.

Most Roles watches require 650 Turns Per Day Bi-Directional Winding.
But the Rolex Daytona requires Clockwise winding rotation of 800 to 950 Turns Per Day, so you see the need for an adaptable and programmable watch winder?

Sure you could get a watch winder that turns your watch 1,300 Turns Per Day, but it would be over stressing the watch by twice its needs and theoretically cutting its life span in half, or at least the service free time span. Automatic Watch Service is not cheap, I think the going rate now a days in major cities is $250 and hour. But they do not quote automatic watch service like that on an hourly basis, so, your guess is as good as mine. I just pay the bill, they never tell me how long they work on the thing. But the bill is usually a couple hundred each visit....

So you need a programmable watch winder that allows you to turn down the turns per day to a minimal level which will maintain the watch.....

Next question is well then if over winding is a problem what do I need a winder for?
Well aside from the convenience factor and the time savings, because mechanical things are made to be used. What happens to the human body if it is under used?
Well, Tiger is having knee issues from over use, but the average American is going to die way to young from under use. A mechanical watch has internal lubrication and the parts need to be lubricated through movement, so less is more, but none is death and too much is bad...simple equation.

You know this argument makes sense so now all you need to do is remind yourself that
spending money on quality is never a mistake and buying something because it is cheap always has a price to pay far worse than the savings on the front end!

Do not risk your expensive Rolex Automatic watch by placing it on a cheap watch winder.

Donald
Owner, WatchCases.com

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by: WatchCases 0 Comments
Sunday, September 7, 2008
Watch Winders are mechanical instruments which operate 24x7 and sometimes they break.

Real Watch Winders are repairable. Like a car!

All mechanical things need maintenance and sometimes they break. Modern Watch Winders are made to be maintenance free, but making them like this compromises the trouble free operational life time line. If Watch Winders were made in the volume that cars are made and sold you would be able to walk your winder over to your watch winder dealer, but alas we are a super small niche market. Dealerships are expensive, mechanics salaries are expensive and this is why cars are expensive. It is also why Quality Watch Winders are expensive compared to cheap watch winders.
Quality Watch Winders are made with quality parts and are repairable. Speaking of Cheap Watch Winders, we do not carry cheap watch winders. Period.

Please do not call us asking how to get your Steinhausen Watch Winder repaired. We do not carry Steinhausen, and to the best of my knowledge they are not repairable, but we do not carry them. I am simply reporting what former customers have said to us when they order a replacement watch winder.

We do carry 3 products all of which are repairable and one product line which is replaceable.

Eilux Watch Winders bought from us are easily and cheaply repaired right here in the USA. If you bought from some other dealer, then you are out of luck. Eilux Watch Winders are manufactured in China, but their single Authorized North American Dealer can repair them in house, right here in the USA.

Now, the market is being flooded by non-Authorized dealers, (the sales price tells you if it is legit or not!) and if you buy from them and your unit breaks you are plum out of luck! The USA dealer is instructed to confiscate and report for prosecution the purchasers of counterfeit merchandise, because without a buyer the seller of Fakes would be out of business. Likewise the illegal importers also would be out of business. Did you ever watch the show "Law and Order"? The detectives are forever going into pawn shops and the middlemen are claiming "I didn't know it was stolen" yet they paid pennies on the dollar! Both the pawn shop owner and the ultimate customer end up being prosecuted for buying something they could easily afford. (Sorry I digress, it just gets old seeing these fake websites online, and otherwise respectable people buying from them!)

Orbita Watch Winders bought from us are easily repaired. Orbita is excellent to work with and they also offer extended warranty services when you purchase your Watch Winder from us ask us about the Extended Warranty Service and we can put you in touch with the Warranty Department at Orbita. Orbita is an American company, with good old fashioned American Service values! Likewise the same problem is happening with Orbita, with any quality product now a days seems some factory in China or elsewhere is willing to make a fake and some one is willing to buy a product at a ridiculously low price, then it breaks and they find out what they got. So, buy quality, buy from Authorized retailers at fair market prices not deep discount prices. Deep discount pricing only works in high volume industries or pawn shops. I already mentioned the watch winder industry is a small niche market, so pay fair market value and get a product that will give years of service and protect your expensive automatic watches!

Buben and Zorweg watch winders are also repairable. In face last month a guy contacted me about his 12 year old Watch Winder, we ordered him a new motor (through the distributor) and he was able to replace it himself!
Why? Because quality products are made to be repairable.
Why? Because quality parts cost more and it is better to repair than to replace an expensive item.

Finally Winder Warranties and promises are only as good as the person making the promise. I see competitors promising forever warranties and return windows of a million years and yet, I am all the time getting customers who call since they got burned in the past and talk to me about their problem with this or that cheap watch winder and how the Internet company that sold it to them will not answer or return their calls.

I actually empathise with this customer, but when I read the website they bought from and see it written in all caps and words liked "spinned", I just cringe that they, the customer, threw caution to the wind! To good to be true always is!

On the upside, selling this cheated customer an expensive high quality dependable Orbita Watch Winder or a Buben Watch Winder is a much easier sale! What I love about these guys, (always a man, women seem to understand shopping better) is they are so honest. I guess that is why they were so easily duped. They are of the old school, where your word is your bond, and your reputation means something. Here at WatchCases.com that is still true, as it is at Orbita and Buben! Orbita is owned by a "retired" business man Chuck Agnoff, and Buben is a family name going back generations! I am a former Algebra teacher, and my reputation always was important to me, and still is.

Wolf Designs Watch Winders are very good Watch Winders, especially when compared the the cheap watch winders which we refuse to carry, but Wolf Winder are not readily repairable. Wolf is excellent about their warranty work however, if you buy a Watch Winder from us they will replace it if it is within warranty coverage. Wolf probably will alter this model for their winders to a repairable version so they can gain market share in the large multi-head watchwinder field.

People are always asking how long a watch winder should work. We have a hard time giving an exact answer, the Watch Winder industry is really small and really young. But you can correlate life span and price paid. Buben and Zorweg seem to last the longest, followed closely by Orbita Watch Winders, they both use a similar long lasting Swiss or German Engineered servomotor and high quality fasteners and other such seemingly trivial parts. A penny more here a dollar more there produces and expensive watch winder that lasts typically for a couple Presidential Tours. Your mileage may vary....

Eilux Watch Winders, are also made with quality inside parts, however not quite as good (not European Swiss watch quality engineering) and likewise an Eilux Winder is not quite as expensive as the Orbita or Buben Watch Winder. So maybe the life span is only one term? We have been selling Eilux for 5 years now, no wait 6 years now. We have had only a handful of requests for information on servicing them. Though from time to time we do get a call asking for the service center. (Time to time, meaning maybe every 4-6 months a call might come in.)

I am always shocked that the thing is claimed to have stopped working and I contact the service center, but typically the caller does not follow through, with the so called repair, so I suspect it is the competition trying to discredit the brand. I have not personally seen any such problems.

Or maybe people do not think they should pay to bring their product in for servicing?
You spend money to drive your car to the mechanic right?
Or maybe you pay the tow truck right?
So, I doubt this is the issue. In the past year I have dealt with 3 legitimate issues of warranty for Eilux and all 3 happened immediately.
If memory serves, one was a bad circuit board, it was replaced free of charge, and
the other 2 were simply loose wires, which were re-soldered and were better than new!

I have gotten similar calls from so called customers castigating Orbita Watch Winders, saying this or that, and yet my 6 years experience never matches these so called claims. Oh I should mention, all these complaint callers I mentioned call in on blocked numbers! Our customers simply do not block their numbers. They dial straight in. They know we do not spam or sell their information. So, that is the story on Watch Winders and also I hope it lets you understand the price structure a bit better. No one calls about Buben Winders. I suspect because they are not a market threat in the USA, they are so expensive very few units are sold.

A final note:

When you walk into a store and the light fixtures are broken do you buy?
I hope not.
Likewise when you browse the Internet check the website, look for "broken light fixtures"*.

Donald Geib
President WatchCases.com


* Broken Light Fixtures: Lets see on the Internet this would be things like:
No toll free number or contact information hidden deep in the site, or not available.
Bad grammar and or lack of security features or consumer business affiliations like BBB, the Better Business Bureau, Yahoo! McAfee Internet Security etc...
Anyone can have a website business running in a day using a free service, but to do a web business correctly one must spend thousands of dollars in design and hosting and security. Anyone can appear in a google search in the top 2 or 3 sponsored links or along the side sponsored links but appearing down lower in the "free" natural search area takes work and a real business presence.

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Saturday, September 6, 2008
Which watch winder should you buy to wind your Rolex watch?

Depends on which Rolex you have:

The other day a customer called and asked me which watch winder was best for his Rolex?
I talked to him a bit about watch winders and how they work and how an automatic watch works etc. Then turns out he says, "oh it was a fake Rolex"!

This is like say, buying a Porsche from the junk yard with a bad engine, replacing the engine with a Chevy and calling the car a Porsche, sure it looks like a Porsche and maybe even has windows that wind down like a Porsche, and wipers that work like a Porsche, but when you step on the gas the truth is told! You do not have a Porsche!

Welcome to the land of the Fakes. How crazy. Look if you have a real watch you need to buy a real watch winder. Not a cheap fake watch winder like much of my competition sells. For most Rolex watches the best watch winder is the Orbita Siena Watch Winder as a starting point in quality.

If you pay too little for what appears to be a real Rolex or a real Orbita Watch Winder, just remember 2 things:

1. You get what you pay for.
2. Remember Barnum and Bailey? "There's a sucker born every minute."

Donald

Some interesting trivia about the above quote. It is not true, I mean Barnum did not actually say it first. Well, it was said and it was related to the great man of the circus the truth is it revolved around a lawsuit, dealing with, irony here, "Fakes" and a hoax.....

"Hannum brought a lawsuit against Barnum for calling his giant a fake. When it came to trial, Hull stepped forward and confessed that the Cardiff Giant was a hoax and the entire story. The judge ruled that Barnum could not be sued for calling Hannum's giant a fake since it was a fake after all. Thereafter, Hannum's name was lost to history while Barnum was left with the misplaced stigma of being the one to say "There's a sucker born every minute.""

http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

Though, I would contend this to be a very true statement, at least when I look at the success some sites have in selling garbage winders, and the number of customers who admit to having wasted money on another knock off watch winder....or Rolex Automatic Watch...both will work for awhile, but they will not stand the test of time! But as you see, the truth often is obscured...

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